Membership meeting 01-03-2009

[11:19] Rin Tae: anyways ... as for the parties .. we talked about making bigger ones instead of the weekly ones .. so we can prepare better
[11:19] Smoke Wijaya nods
[11:19] Triss Gray: well, as I said to Rin yesterday, I'm all for that
[11:19] Smoke Wijaya: me too
[11:19] Aeris Betsen: out of subject
[11:19] Aeris Betsen: but omg i wish i can do this
[11:19] Aeris Betsen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vcR9C5JXhI&feature=related
[11:20] Triss Gray: btw Smoke: I received you msg yesterday, but had poblems on getting my stream up, and that was only solved 5 mins beforet he party would have started, so too late to send out stuff
[11:20] Smoke Wijaya nods
[11:21] Smoke Wijaya: I was not there anyway, but being freaking sick on my couch...half in coma
[11:21] Rin Tae: Aeris seem to be possesd by someone
[11:21] Aeris Betsen: sush
[11:21] Smoke Wijaya: Jae, we usually first set topic for Tuesdays discussions and discuss the next party of saturday...if you ahve any questions, please ask them :)
[11:21] Aeris Betsen: trying a new ao i made
[11:22] Rin Tae: nice
[11:22] Triss Gray: seems? you mean she isn't? I've been wrong all along :-p
[11:22] Smoke Wijaya: ok, shall we then move with the parties to twice a month? or once?
[11:22] Jae90 Nizna: kk ty :)
[11:22] Rin Tae: twice a month I think
[11:22] KirShan Andel: that rocks
[11:22] Aeris Betsen: trisss hmm i get that lady to bring friends at your door
[11:22] Rin Tae: and have oyu made the animations too, Aeris?
[11:22] Aeris Betsen: better watch it
[11:23] Smoke Wijaya: twice? 1st and 3d staurday then?
[11:23] Triss Gray: is she one of your possessed inner selves then?
[11:23] Triss Gray: sounds good smoke
[11:23] Aeris Betsen: nhe for 15 30 ld long live the japonese sims
[11:23] KirShan Andel: oh i was talking about the basketball thing
[11:23] KirShan Andel: lol
[11:23] Rin Tae: and I think, we should not make it too stricks, but more like always try to make two parties per month
[11:24] Triss Gray: teh advantage of a regular schedule is that people can actually predict when we will have one though :-)
[11:24] Rin Tae: so we can prepare and make the party when everyhting is in place and ready
[11:24] Rin Tae: you are right
[11:25] Smoke Wijaya: I go for 1st and 3d...
[11:25] Rin Tae: thats good
[11:25] Triss Gray: at the same time as we do now?
[11:25] Smoke Wijaya: think so yes...
[11:25] Triss Gray: and same length? or longer?
[11:25] Rin Tae: I think the time is good
[11:26] Smoke Wijaya: think we should change the 10 am till 12 pm?
[11:26] Smoke Wijaya: 2 hours is long enough me thinks..
[11:26] Triss Gray: I think so too, but I wanted to pose the q
[11:26] Rin Tae: maybe.. but if we can make bigger parties, we can have several DJs too
[11:27] Smoke Wijaya: of course...we can always go on longer
[11:27] Rin Tae: but right now .. I think 2 hours is good
[11:27] Triss Gray: most of the time now we do about 2 h 30 mins anyway
[11:27] Rin Tae: sure
[11:27] Smoke Wijaya: alright, then next saturday will be 1st saturday of March, and Aeris will DJ
[11:27] Rin Tae: YAY!
[11:28] Rin Tae: and make piuctures and have fun
[11:28] Smoke Wijaya: alright, tuesdays SL Issues Discussion...anyone an idea for a topic, or will we do another open one?
[11:28] Triss Gray: who wil ldo invitations?
[11:28] Smoke Wijaya: will also try to capture a bit with fraps...see if we can make a little promomovie
[11:28] Rin Tae: thats a good idea Smoke
[11:28] Smoke Wijaya: I could make one tomorrow Triss
[11:28] Smoke Wijaya: invitation
[11:28] Jae90 Nizna: what time are tuesday meetings?
[11:29] Triss Gray: 12 pm slt
[11:29] Rin Tae wants to have Aeriss cap
[11:29] Triss Gray: they are not really "meetings", more an open discussion about a topic though, Jae90
[11:29] Smoke Wijaya: yes, in our times we might be a bit too much euro centric...
[11:29] Triss Gray: and sometimes even without a set topic
[11:29] Finn Poitier is Online
[11:30] Rin Tae: this week ... I thikn the open topic discussions are generally quite well
[11:30] Triss Gray: well, unless someone wnats to wake in the middle of night or so, I guess we have not much choice but to stay eu centric in timing
[11:30] Triss Gray: we could try to do one about the new LL blogs
[11:30] Rin Tae: yes
[11:31] Triss Gray: better/worse then the old blog
[11:31] Smoke Wijaya: ok
[11:31] Triss Gray: what people expect from it
[11:31] Jae90 Nizna: is tuesday the only discussion time?
[11:31] Triss Gray: the irony of it being a return to the original blog system from before the forum
[11:31] Jae90 Nizna: im in USA so i think i may have trouble attending lol
[11:31] Rin Tae: it could be expanded itno a LL to user communication topic
[11:31] Smoke Wijaya: yes Jae, it is at the moment....
[11:32] Jae90 Nizna: kk
[11:32] Smoke Wijaya: ...although we might want to get another event extra again.
[11:32] Rin Tae: as soon as we have US members whe would be willing to host discussions at US times, we would love to do it then too
[11:32] Smoke Wijaya: but what Triss said, is bit difficult for us as well to be at events in the middle of the night.
[11:32] Jae90 Nizna: okay:)
[11:32] Triss Gray: or in the middle of my workday
[11:32] Smoke Wijaya: right Rin, for sure.
[11:33] Smoke Wijaya: what was the time of the saturday morning chats we did once?
[11:33] Triss Gray: anyone have any experience with the new blog?
[11:34] Smoke Wijaya: nah, read some..but seems like a lot to check to me
[11:34] Triss Gray: haven't used it much, since I mostly read it in google news reader through rss
[11:34] Triss Gray: and that's only the "frontpage" feed I think
[11:34] Triss Gray: not sure oif that has all new subcategories
[11:35] Rin Tae: I think, that you should not concentrate on the blog but make it .. as I said .. int oa general discussion about LL to user communication and what people woud expect it to be
[11:35] Smoke Wijaya: I agree Rin, that seems like a good topic.
[11:35] Triss Gray: well, there is one constant in the communications
[11:35] Triss Gray: they started with a blog like the one now
[11:36] Triss Gray: then they wanted a forum
[11:36] Triss Gray: people didn't like that
[11:36] Triss Gray: then they changed the forum into a monolithic blog
[11:36] Smoke Wijaya: they first had a one page blog.
[11:36] Triss Gray: people didn't like that
[11:36] Smoke Wijaya: ah right
[11:36] Smoke Wijaya: of coruse
[11:36] Triss Gray: then they went back to the forum
[11:36] Triss Gray: people didn't like that :-)
[11:36] Triss Gray: see the pattern? :-)
[11:36] Triss Gray: and now it's back to a multi-category blog
[11:37] Triss Gray: not sure yet of people don't like it :-)
[11:37] Triss Gray: but I expect it :-)
[11:37] Rin Tae: some people will not like anything
[11:38] Triss Gray: and most of thoise are in sl :-)
[11:38] Smoke Wijaya: well, lets do both...lets just hook the more broad issue of communication to the new blog one.
[11:38] Triss Gray: sure
[11:38] Rin Tae: yes .. I think it should get some people to talk
[11:39] Smoke Wijaya: ok
[11:39] Triss Gray: I'll try to peruse the new stuff a bit to see what it's like
[11:39] Triss Gray: though it's still just a blog
[11:39] Smoke Wijaya: will post it tomorrow.
[11:39] Rin Tae: kk
[11:39] Triss Gray: how's the shop going?
[11:40] Smoke Wijaya: Need to create more again...did not have much time, is busy in RL with finding job.
[11:40] Rin Tae: not that good ... only one sale on SLX, but I have not been able to get to write some good descriptions for the products
[11:41] Triss Gray: can't we jinx it? :-) like buy hige quantities from ourself to end up higher in listings ;-)
[11:41] Smoke Wijaya: Still hope that some more people will think about donating a build for it...we might want to send out once more a notice regarding that..
[11:41] Smoke Wijaya: ...and again to ask if people would like to participate with blog.
[11:41] Triss Gray: mm, none of what I make is really sell worthy, but I made soem progress on the seating stuff
[11:41] Rin Tae: you can buy large quantities of it .. sure
[11:42] Rin Tae: once the seating script is done and we have a chair, then we can sell it too
[11:42] Smoke Wijaya: What kept me busy today as well was question how to spread our message and goal.
[11:43] Smoke Wijaya: Wb KirShan
[11:43] Rin Tae: wb Kirshan
[11:43] KirShan Andel: thanks
[11:43] KirShan Andel: (=^-^=)
[11:44] Rin Tae: hmm.. spreading the messege is the most difficult part
[11:45] Rin Tae pokes
[11:45] Jae90 Nizna: it was nice meeting with you guys but i have to run! i know i have at least one friend now who would be very interested in future meetings so i will bring hem along next time :)
[11:45] Smoke Wijaya: and most important part
[11:45] Rin Tae: thats good Jae
[11:45] Smoke Wijaya: ok Jae, great :) Good to have you here...have a good day
[11:45] Rin Tae waves: "See you"
[11:46] KirShan Andel: bye :)
[11:46] Jae90 Nizna: thank you:) ttyl!
[11:47] Smoke Wijaya: We really need to intensify active campaigning
[11:47] Smoke Wijaya: but I am not sure how to start
[11:47] Rin Tae: thats true
[11:48] Rin Tae: me too ... I still hope for the discussions and the parties .. but the discussions are unpredictable as we have seen
[11:48] Smoke Wijaya: I mean...we are indeed still kind of to small, at least in active part, to have a demo
[11:48] Smoke Wijaya: too*
[11:48] Triss Gray: I agree, but I also have not really a good idea on a growth strategy
[11:49] Triss Gray: we need a spindoctor :-)
[11:49] Rin Tae: hehe
[11:49] Smoke Wijaya: Well, we need members to each recruite someone each week...
[11:49] Smoke Wijaya: or 2
[11:49] Triss Gray: well, I talk to people about sldm, but I can't force them to be interested
[11:49] Rin Tae: that is not that easy as it sounds
[11:49] Smoke Wijaya: I know..
[11:50] Triss Gray: We need a pyramid scheme :-)
[11:50] Rin Tae: this bloodlines system with thoe vampires that is infesting SL works like this
[11:50] Smoke Wijaya: oh, I see we can return to our own HQs btw....
[11:50] Rin Tae: hi Shonen
[11:51] Shonen Oh: hi
[11:51] Smoke Wijaya: Hi Shonen
[11:51] Rin Tae: thats good .. we should tp back then
[11:51] Shonen Oh: hi everybody
[11:51] Triss Gray: btw, does someone have an idea to participate in that earth festival any mentioned? I don't really see how
[11:52] Smoke Wijaya: We were using the space for a moment because the sim of our HQs was full, Shonen :) We are not leaving because of you or something
[11:52] Smoke Wijaya: no Triss...
[11:52] Shonen Oh: np, i'm amazed to see so many people here right now, more than in December
[11:52] Triss Gray: I'm also not sure "earth week" is in our category
[11:53] Triss Gray: not that I not care about environmentalism
[11:53] Triss Gray: but it's not immediately connected with our cause
[11:53] Smoke Wijaya: hmm, we did have quite some people here in December...I myself have beeen here quite a lot too...
[11:53] Smoke Wijaya: during greek uprising
[11:53] Triss Gray: what did you put in that barrel smoke? The cloud rising from it seems rather toxic ;-)
[11:53] Shonen Oh: so, what is that 'earth week' u mentioned, if I don't intrude?
[11:54] Zoe Parness shouts: waves to Aeris and Smoke
[11:54] Triss Gray: mm, don't know much about it, it's a sl festival about earth, and any asked sldm if we wanted to participate, and that's about all I know
[11:54] Aeris Betsen smiles heya Zoe saw your msg !!
[11:54] Triss Gray: any1 that is
[11:54] Aeris Betsen shouts: heya Zoe saw your msg !!
[11:55] Aeris Betsen: blub me
[11:55] Smoke Wijaya: I dont know either...not sure even of which group
[11:55] Rin Tae: I think we should participate in such things .. something can always be done from our side
[11:55] Triss Gray: like what?
[11:55] Smoke Wijaya shouts: Hi Zoe :)
[11:55] Aeris Betsen: like do an art gallery with places in sl?
[11:55] Aeris Betsen: nice places in sl
[11:55] Smoke Wijaya: with a greenie event?
[11:55] Rin Tae: right now, I am not even sure what they are ding, so I can'T say how to particiapte
[11:55] Aeris Betsen: i can take picz if you rin can make nice frames
[11:55] Rin Tae: *doing
[11:56] Aeris Betsen: what ya think?
[11:56] Rin Tae: ohh.. I can make nice frames.. sure
[11:56] Aeris Betsen: and put SLDM and a little info boot thingy
[11:56] Smoke Wijaya: I am not sure what you are talking about aeris...about what we could do for that earth week event or about a way for sldm to more activily campaign
[11:56] Aeris Betsen: talk with the tall chick that does this things
[11:56] Aeris Betsen: donno her name
[11:57] Aeris Betsen: and we can put lm also in the pictures
[11:57] Smoke Wijaya: why would we be an info hub for art places in SL?
[11:57] Aeris Betsen: for the place where i shoot them
[11:57] Triss Gray: yes, I don't really get that part either
[11:57] Aeris Betsen: is in eartweek thingy smoke
[11:57] Aeris Betsen: earth
[11:58] Smoke Wijaya: I see
[11:58] Shonen Oh: sorry to be that 'green' but what DM stands for?
[11:59] Triss Gray: Democratic Movement
[11:59] Shonen Oh: txnx Triss
[11:59] Smoke Wijaya: Well, I dont think that making a stall with landmarks to places in SL, in this case art places, not even about environment etc...is soemthing we should do
[11:59] Triss Gray: I can't see the link to sldm goals
[11:59] Smoke Wijaya: I dont see the use of it...not going to advertise randomnly some places that have nothing to do with rl earth and environment.
[12:00] Smoke Wijaya: I dont either Triss
[12:00] Shonen Oh: still, it would be very interesting, even if not directly linked to environment if I may say so
[12:00] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Requesting landmark data for: SLDM HQ at Kaskitayo (207, 145, 43)
[12:00] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Landmark link - secondlife:///app/teleport/Flagg/-2608.313000/-12910.530000/43.780000/
[12:01] Shonen Oh: appreciated
[12:02] KirShan Andel: see you all later, there is some live music i'm going to
[12:02] Rin Tae: have fun
[12:02] KirShan Andel: pikachu
[12:02] KirShan Andel: :)
[12:02] KirShan Andel: bye
[12:02] Triss Gray: bye!
[12:02] Shonen Oh: I think I'll tp to your DM HQ, txnx for the info, bye
[12:02] Smoke Wijaya: ok, I think we should forget the Earth Week event for slDM at least for now...I really dont see how user rights in usercreated 3D worlds are to be connected in a meaningfull way to RL environmental issues and also in a way that does not downplay RL problems
[12:03] Smoke Wijaya: and I need to go soon....
[12:04] Rin Tae: hmm... but participation in such events is what would bring us publicity
[12:04] Smoke Wijaya: right....
[12:04] Smoke Wijaya: anyways, let us at least tp back to HQs
[12:04] Triss Gray: maybe, but it feels a little "cheap"
[12:04] Smoke Wijaya: yes
[12:04] Triss Gray: I can see what our point is being there in case of a human rights festival
[12:05] Smoke Wijaya: oh, the sim is full again
[12:05] Smoke Wijaya: sigh
[12:05] Triss Gray: though even that can look like downplaying rl issues
[12:05] Smoke Wijaya: yes, we need to do that carefully
[12:05] Triss Gray: but at an environment thing, I don't really see the connection
[12:05] Finn Poitier is Offline
[12:05] Smoke Wijaya: and wow .. the SLLU feminist netwrok meetings are crowded :)
[12:06] Rin Tae: but maybe we can still offer the place or help in orgenising
[12:06] Smoke Wijaya: just up the hill :)
[12:06] Smoke Wijaya: we can offer space for sure I think
[12:06] Rin Tae: we have a club they can have events in
[12:06] Triss Gray: but is that what tey're looking for? Semmed morel ike they were looking for actual "content"
[12:07] Rin Tae: and I would offer the club ... we can'T help topic wise, but we can help in orgenising or with this
[12:07] Triss Gray: seemed more like*
[12:08] Smoke Wijaya: I dont see why we as slDM should be part of the organising...although the place can be used I guess.
[12:08] Smoke Wijaya: sorry, but we can help any organising then
[12:09] Smoke Wijaya: we do not e ven organise big actions for ourselves,...
[12:10] Smoke Wijaya: which we really need to do
[12:10] Triss Gray: I agree mostly, though lettign them use the space if they want to seems like a good idea
[12:10] Rin Tae: sure.. but let us at least offer the place
[12:10] Smoke Wijaya: yes
[12:11] Triss Gray: Other topics?
[12:12] Oscatel Foden is Offline
[12:12] Smoke Wijaya: I dont have atm...we really need to have more active campaigning...in many forms
[12:12] Triss Gray: Maybe find a strategy to expulse large masses from the sim when we wnat to meet :-)
[12:12] Rin Tae: we have the discussion and the party handled and we agreed to offer the place to the festival ...